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From what I witnessed, I think one of the big problems for newcomers is that it isn't easy to integrate into an existing room and its dynamics. And they might be uncertain how to act in a Gorean setting. So how about setting up a few rp idreas with descriptions and who best to contact about it?

For example the rebuilding of Torcadino could appeal to someone who'd like to play out a Gorean setting, plan for activities and get involved in city building.

Other ideas could appeal tp someone looking for a collar. If they're free women, they could for example take a loan from a shady restaurant owner who would sooner or later demand repayment. And if they can't pay, they end up in the pens of the slave market.

Migos could also provide rooms in the back of his restaurant where people can meet for clandestine activities. One use of them could be that some free women looking for an adventure change there in slave garments and a collar. Most of the time they'll return to the room and dress again in their robes to return to a respectable life. But sometimes they might be caught by guards or free men while disguised as a slave girl. Or they might lose the key to their collar. Or Migos might decide that a woman is just too beautiful to remain free.

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I had first posted this as a reply but thought that it'd be better to post a new message.

Here some ideas from me, some of which we have already discussed:

Migos has to leave the House of Lycus since it's suspected but not proven that he worked together with the Cosian occupation forces. He then becomes a bit of a shady character, running a restaurant and becoming an important figure in Torcadino's criminal world. It's also known to many that he'd opposed to the administration though he doesn't dare to openly oppose it. Migos is more of an opportunist than a master criminal, so the administration could be aware of most of his activities but tolerate him because he makes it simpler for them to keep an eye on the opposition.

We might need some kind of focus points in Torcadino where all participants can easily meet.

I thought we could use Migos' tavern as a kind of Rick's Cafe where all kind of people meet on a kind of neutral ground.
Then we could have the city's slave market where both the city and independent slavers do business. Slaves owned by the city could come here to receive training and kajirae owned by members could be sent by theiir patriotic owners to help with the training.
And the administrator and the head scribe will probably set something where members can meet who are interested in running the city?

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General Discussion / Re: Absence
« on: June 06, 2025, 03:42:27 pm »
Hope you get better soon!!!!

Hugs and kisses, Tula

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General Discussion / Re: Home sweet home
« on: March 21, 2025, 09:15:21 pm »
Great that you're feeling better  :)

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General Discussion / A thrall is caged
« on: December 09, 2024, 01:00:48 pm »
callum
Coming to myself on the hard earth of the plain. Feeling dried blood from a cut on my forehead.

callum
Taking a turn around the ornamental gardens, allowing myself to unwind. My head throbbing no less angrily

Tula
Seeing a strange man walkig around dazed, I call the guards who speedily catch him and drag him towards the cages.

Tula
Pushing the wretched man into one of the cages, the guard snarls at him. "Stay silent until the Master of the House or his first girl come to take a look at you."

callum
Out of the blue, I am pounced on by three thick set guards. I resist but the make short work of me then drag me in the direction of some slave cages. I catch the eye of a bondmaid who seems to be supervising my capture.

callum
My struggles earned me a bang on the head from one of the iron bars. Biting my lip, I glance again at the bondmaid, as the cage clangs shut.

Tula
I walk away, leaving the man in his cage. Someone else will decide about his fate.

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General Discussion / Timeline of RP's (finished, interrupted and planned)
« on: September 17, 2024, 12:14:38 pm »
I tried to create a timeline of the RP's of the members of the new House of Lycus. Some of them might be played out in flashbacks since we're already in our new home.

Market

Emma is bought and collared (multiple parts, finished)

The affair of the two warriors and their companions (multiple parts, Dimitra and Sabrina become secret slaves, Marcus buys Tula, finished)

The High Slave Kat disciplines Emma and Tula in the pens (interrupted)

Tula meet Asterios and Dimitra and helps to pick a slave tunic (interrupted, could lead to Marcus meeting the warriors again)

Lily trains Emma and Tula in the pens (to be continued in the pens of the new house)

Marcus Lycus meets Lady Tabetha (finished?)

Marcus Lycus is invited to dinner with two secret and (at least) two very obvious kajirae (planned, Marcus get info about opportunities and letters of recommendation)

Journey from the Market to the new House of Lycus

Emma and Tula in the slave wagon (planned)

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General Discussion / Re: Info dump about Torcadino
« on: September 15, 2024, 04:06:46 am »
Thinking about the history of Torcadino, the city must have switched allegiance at least four times:
1.) Ar to Cos, driven by the mercantile class
2.) Back to Ar when Dietrich of Tarnburg seized the city
3.) Back to Cos when the mercenaries decided to leave
4.) Back to Ar after the defeat of the Cosian invaders during the uprising

As described in the book, male supporters of the temporarily defeated faction were often executed while female supporters were enslaved. After four overthrows of the ruling factions, it stands to reason that many members of the ruling elites were killed or enslaved, also resulting in much business know-how being lost. With many of the merchant class favouring Cos, they were hit hard again by the last switch of power.

Historically rulers or governments often tried to attract settlers, especially people with special know-how, by providing privilegels. That could be tax exemption (at least for a,limited time) or providing a land grant. With Torcadino not being destroyed, maybe new settlers could receive one of the empty buildings of a disgraced member of their caste.

In the middle ages and I think also in the ancient time, rules of cities were often very much bent into favour of their citizens if the city could get away with it. An example were the powerful independent cities at the Rhine like Cologne which had the privilege to force merchants passing through their territory to display their wares and offer them for wholesale prices to the local merchants. Maybe the slavers of Torcadino (or maybe only the new ones) are offered the privilege to cal dips on judicially enslaved women etc., i.e. a right of first refusal. 

With Marcus Lycus being a citizen of Ar and a businessman with specialized caste know-how, he'd fit very much into the category of people Torcadino might want to attract to fill the gaps in their citizenship. The warriors might tell him about the opportunities and provide in addition the letters of recommendation. Once arriving in Torcadino, he might be offered to take over a building and stalls of a slaver house hose members were sentenced to death or enlsavement.

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General Discussion / Re: Info dump about Torcadino
« on: September 14, 2024, 02:23:38 pm »
Some quotes from Nercenaries of Gor, describing Torcadino or (more often) the occupation by Dietrich of Tarnburg.

The mercenaries left Torcadino before the uprising in Ar, so Torcadino probably switched allegations twice more (to Cos after the mercenaries were gone and then back to Ar after Cos was defeated).



Norman, John. Mercenaries of Gor (Gorean Saga Book 21)

“There are the aqueducts of Torcadino!” said Mincon. “I see them,” I said. The natural wells of Torcadino, originally sufficing for a small population, had, more than a century ago, proved inadequate to furnish sufficient water for an expanding city. Two aqueducts now brought fresh water to Torcadino from more than a hundred pasangs away, one from the Issus, a northwestwardly flowing tributary to the Vosk and the other from springs in the Hills of Eteocles, southwest of Corcyrus. The remote termini of both aqueducts were defended by guard stations. The vicinities of the aqueducts themselves are usually patrolled and, of course, engineers and workmen attend regularly to their inspection and repair. These aqueducts are marvelous constructions, actually, having a pitch of as little as a hort for every pasang.

.......

In something like a half of an Ahn we had come to Torcadino’s Sun Gate. Many cities have a “Sun Gate.” It is called that because it is commonly opened at dawn and closed at dusk. Once a Gorean city closes its gates it is usually difficult to leave the city. They are seldom opened and closed to suit the convenience of private persons. Sometimes rogues and brigands, and even slavers, hang about the gates, seeking to trap late comers against the walls. Many a lovely woman has fallen to the slaver’s noose in just such a fashion. To be sure, a given gate, the “night gate,” is usually maintained somewhere, through which bona-fide citizens, known in the city, or capable of identifying themselves, may be admitted.

.....

These inert, suspended, desiccated weights, now little more than skulls and the bones of men, with some bits of cloth, fluttering in the air’s stirrings, and threads and patches of dried flesh clinging about them, had been arranged in a line along the Avenue of Adminius, the main thoroughfare of Torcadino, near the Semnium, the hall of the high council, doubtless as some sort of mnemonic and admonitory display.

....

“That is the central cylinder of Torcadino,” he said, “the administrative headquarters of her first executive, whether it be Administrator or Ubar.” “Yes?” I said. “Look to its summit,” he said. I did so. “Do you know the flag of Torcadino?” he asked. “No,” I said. “It does not matter,” he said, “for of recent months what has flown there has not been the flag of Torcadino, but another flag, that of Cos.”

...

“It is silver,” I said. “It is far off. It is hard to make out. The sun is glinting on it.” “It is the standard of the silver tarn,” he said. “It is mounted on a silvered pole. Near the top of the pole there is a rectangular plate on which there is writing. Surmounting this plate, clutching it in its talons, is a tarn, done in silver, its wings outstretched.”
Standard of Dietrich of Tarnburg
...

"Through the aqueducts."
“Of course,” he said. “They were entered, one near the Issus, the other in the Hills of Eteocles, more than a hundred pasangs away. Soldiers, in double file, wading, moving sometimes even over the heads of Cosian troops, traversed them.”

...

There, some fifty yards away, kneeling, huddled together against the brick wall of a public building, the wall composed of the flat, narrow bricks common in southern Gorean architecture, was a group of some one hundred to one hundred and fifty females. They were naked. They were chained together by the neck. They were in the keeping of two soldiers, with whips.

...


As these women had been apparently marked out for seizure long ago, perhaps months ago, the numbers had doubtless been preassigned. Doubtless there were lists on which their names appeared, each name correlated for convenience with a given number. For example, a given high lady of Torcadino, of a faction favoring Cos, might have had opposite her name on some list the number, say, 908. She would then, after the fall of the city, have been hunted down, stripped, and put on the chain, the number 908 being inscribed on her left breast. For months then, she may have unsuspectingly, with haughty aplomb, in lofty, benign ignorance, gone about her life in her usual way, with her usual power and arrogance, unaware that she figured, however trivially, in the plans of others, others to whom she was no more than a naked female, who had been assigned the number 908. Her fate was already planned, and set. The days of her freedom, in a sense, were already gone. The marking stick was already in existence which would inscribe that number on her fair breast. In a sense she was then, unbeknownst to herself, 908; in a sense, then, a sense of which she was ignorant, she was already a slave. This sort of thing is not unusual, of course, the marking out of given women for bondage. Many women on Gor have been scouted, and selected for bondage, weeks or months, perhaps even years, before they are picked up. In a sense, then, they are already, at least in the view of their harvesters, slaves, simply waiting to be gathered in. Too, doubtless, something similar takes place on Earth, before Gorean slavers make their strikes. Many a girl, one supposes, has been noticed, and surreptitiously scouted and assessed, before she is found acceptable and then, at the slaver’s convenience, taken in hand, for transportation and delivery. Where are they noticed? One supposes it could have been anywhere, perhaps in a high school or college class room, perhaps in a corridor or a cafeteria, perhaps on a street, perhaps in a park or on a beach, perhaps on a bus or subway, or waiting at an airport, perhaps in an office, perhaps while getting into or out of a taxi, perhaps while shopping at the local supermarket. Who knows where or when the eyes of the slavers are upon them? If they knew that would they flee behind locked doors, hoping vainly to escape their fate; would they crouch fearfully in closets, waiting for the doors to be opened; or would they stand differently and move ever more beautifully, hoping in shyness, deference and femininity, to suggest their value, and their possible worthiness for a Gorean slave collar?

...

“These are new bodies, fresh bodies,” I said. “Of course,” said Mincon. We were at the foot of the low, broad steps of the Semnium, the hall of the high council, which building, it seemed, might now serve as the headquarters of the new masters of Torcadino. These steps extended before the building, for the entire length of its portico. “Who are they?” I asked. There were some two to three hundred new bodies hung now from tarred ropes along the Avenue of Adminius, in the vicinity of the Semnium. “Collaborators, traitors, men who were of the party of Cos, betrayers of the alliance with Ar, and such,” said Mincon. “As those earlier were similarly adherents of Ar?” I asked. “Perhaps,” said Mincon. “Some of those here,” I said, regarding the lines of bodies dangling in the tarred halters, “are perhaps the same as those who had been active in bringing about the downfall of those who hung here formerly.” “Of course,” said Mincon. “The winds have shifted in Torcadino,” I said. “Yes,” said Mincon. “It seems your captain is in the pay of Ar,” I said. “Of that you may judge yourself,” he said, “shortly.” “I?” I asked. “Yes,” he said. “I do not understand,” I said.
“Follow me,” he said. I then, and the others, followed him up the steps of the Semnium. I stopped once, at the entrance, to look back, at the bodies. I briefly recalled the girl at the chain, 437, and her mother, 261. Her mother, before her capture, I had gathered, had been important, having been the confirmation treasurer of one of Torcadino’s commercial councils, the Spice Council. She had also, in her position, I had gathered, and doubtless by her influence and acts, supported the cause of Cos. This inclination, incidentally, is not all that uncommon among individuals whose fortunes tend to be intimately involved in such matters as importation and exportation, the location and exploitation of foreign markets, and, in general, the overseas trade, the Thassa and island trade. This is understandable. The navies of Tyros and Cos, for most practical purposes, command the green waves of gleaming Thassa. They control many of the most familiar and practical oceanic trade corridors. Few coasts are free from their patrols. Few ports could scorn their blockades. 261, however, aside from all such considerations, was a citizeness of Torcadino, and Torcadino had been sworn to the cause of Ar. She had, it seemed, for whatever reason, presumably opportunism or greed, betrayed the pledge of her Home Stone. In the case of a man this can be a capital offense. She was not a man, however, but a female. It was thus, doubtless, that she had not been placed on a proscription list, but only on a seizure list. It was her sex which had saved her. Had she been a man she would have been hung. Within the entrance to the Semnium was a marble-floored, lofty hall. Passageways and stairways led variously from this broad vestibule. The walls were adorned with mosaics, scenes generally of civic life, prominent among them scenes of public gatherings, conferences and processions. One depicted the laying of the first stone in Torcadino’s walls, an act which presumably would have taken place more than seven hundred years ago, when, according to the legends, the first wall, only a dozen feet high, was built to encircle and protect a great, sprawling encampment at the joining of trade routes. Within the hall were several soldiers, and several officers, at tables, conducting various sorts of business. To one side, permanent fixtures, immovable and sturdy, their supports fixed in the floor, were several rows of long, low, marble benches. It was on these that clients and claimants, with their various causes, grievances, and petitions, would wait until their turn came to be called for their appointments or hearings. It was here, too, that witnesses, and such, might wait, before being summoned to give testimony on various matters before the courts.

...

“Cos will not dare let these refugees starve,” I said, “as they are citizens of a city which had declared for them, which had gone over to them. If they did not care for them, this would be a dark lesson, and one favoring Ar, to every wavering or uncommitted village, town and city within a dozen horizons.” “Quite,” he agreed. “What was done with the garrison of Torcadino?” I asked. “Most were surprised in their beds,” he said. “Their weapons were seized. Resistance was useless. We then expelled them, disarmed, from the city.” “So that they, too, like the civilians, would aggravate the problems of Cos.” “Yes,” he said.

...

I turned in the blankets, brought by soldiers, on the tiles of the vestibule of the Semnium. There were perhaps two hundred people, many of them civilians, being housed there this night. Near me, a free female, one of those to be counted among the spoils of Torcadino, was chained on one of the clients’ marble benches, one of several serving on such benches, women who, one after the other, in turn, were replaced with others.

...

Certain of the folks passed through the great gate of Torcadino were searched rather thoroughly. Some of the women, probably because the guards were interested in seeing them, were stripped stark naked, standing on the stones before the portal and, to their dismay, examined with Gorean efficiency. Certain coins and rings were found. After such a search a woman is sometimes good for nothing more than being a slave. But they were thrust through the gate, their clothes then clutched in their hands. Boabissia, interestingly, though quite comely, was spared this indignity. Some objects were confiscated from various folks, men and women, but little, really, was taken. I began to suspect that the treatment this group was receiving was, on the whole, little more than pro forma. I also suspected, after a few Ehn, that Boabissia’s immunity from Gorean Strip Search, in spite of the promise of pleasure to the guards of such a search, might be due to her party, that she was with us. The letters of the officer were now within my sheath. This tightened the draw, but the hiding place, considering the few options at my disposal, seemed a sensible one. Papers can be easily detected within tunic or cloak linings. To be sure, if one has time, the messages can be written on cloth within the linings, and then should elude search, unless the garment be torn open. There are many possible hiding places for messages or valuables, of course. A few that might be mentioned are false heels or divided soles in sandals, tiny secret compartments in rings, brooches, ornate hair pins, hollow combs, fibulae, studs, and clasps. The pommels of some swords are made, too, in such a way as to unscrew, revealing such a compartment. Similarly walking sticks and staffs often have one or more such compartments in them, reached by unscrewing various sections of the stick or staff. Needless to say, some of these, too, contain, daggers or thrusting swords. Such concealed compartments and weapons, and sometimes even builders’ glasses, sun chronometers, and compasses, and such, are found in such objects. It is cultural for white-clad pilgrims from certain cities to carry such staffs, often entwined with flowers, in pilgrimages to the Sardar. Such folks are not as harmless as they might seem, as various brigands have learned to their sorrow.

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General Discussion / Info dump about Torcadino
« on: September 14, 2024, 12:35:58 pm »
To collect info about Torcadino. Starting with the most common search info.

Torcadino:
City located on "Flats of Sarpeto" at the intersection of various routes, the Genesian, the Northern Salt Line, the Northern Silk Road, the Pilgrim's Road, and the Eastern Way (or Treasure Road), Torcadino is a crossroads city SE of Brundisium, SW of Ar. A walled city-state not unlike Vonda. Recently served as a mercenary stronghold during the Ar/Cos conflict. Occupies a position of great strategic importance in the central north. Because of it's location. Once an ally of Ar, it served as Cosian stronghold and staging center, until reclaimed by Deitrich of Tarnburg. Torcadino is also notable for it's two aqueducts, built a century ago, which bring fresh waer from the Issus, a northwestwardly flowing tributary of the Vosk River. Similar to any of the walled city-states of ancient Earth Greece.


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