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General Discussion / Timeline of RP's (finished, interrupted and planned)
« Last post by Sinnabun on September 17, 2024, 12:14:38 pm »
I tried to create a timeline of the RP's of the members of the new House of Lycus. Some of them might be played out in flashbacks since we're already in our new home.

Market

Emma is bought and collared (multiple parts, finished)

The affair of the two warriors and their companions (multiple parts, Dimitra and Sabrina become secret slaves, Marcus buys Tula, finished)

The High Slave Kat disciplines Emma and Tula in the pens (interrupted)

Tula meet Asterios and Dimitra and helps to pick a slave tunic (interrupted, could lead to Marcus meeting the warriors again)

Lily trains Emma and Tula in the pens (to be continued in the pens of the new house)

Marcus Lycus meets Lady Tabetha (finished?)

Marcus Lycus is invited to dinner with two secret and (at least) two very obvious kajirae (planned, Marcus get info about opportunities and letters of recommendation)

Journey from the Market to the new House of Lycus

Emma and Tula in the slave wagon (planned)
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General Discussion / Re: Avatar Samples and Requests for Lily
« Last post by emmaofgor on September 16, 2024, 12:38:48 am »
A random kajirae thought, Mistress – how about awarding new ‘graduation’ AVs to girls as they pass through each level of your training? 😊
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General Discussion / Re: Info dump about Torcadino
« Last post by emmaofgor on September 15, 2024, 04:56:29 am »
And I could see the npcs Asterios and Orfeas vouching for Marcus, which would smooth the way for him to operate from Torcadino. Perhaps an RP scene where Marcus meets them for dinner (served by player and npc slaves) at their apartment, specifically to discuss the Torcadino relocation. 
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General Discussion / Re: Info dump about Torcadino
« Last post by Sinnabun on September 15, 2024, 04:06:46 am »
Thinking about the history of Torcadino, the city must have switched allegiance at least four times:
1.) Ar to Cos, driven by the mercantile class
2.) Back to Ar when Dietrich of Tarnburg seized the city
3.) Back to Cos when the mercenaries decided to leave
4.) Back to Ar after the defeat of the Cosian invaders during the uprising

As described in the book, male supporters of the temporarily defeated faction were often executed while female supporters were enslaved. After four overthrows of the ruling factions, it stands to reason that many members of the ruling elites were killed or enslaved, also resulting in much business know-how being lost. With many of the merchant class favouring Cos, they were hit hard again by the last switch of power.

Historically rulers or governments often tried to attract settlers, especially people with special know-how, by providing privilegels. That could be tax exemption (at least for a,limited time) or providing a land grant. With Torcadino not being destroyed, maybe new settlers could receive one of the empty buildings of a disgraced member of their caste.

In the middle ages and I think also in the ancient time, rules of cities were often very much bent into favour of their citizens if the city could get away with it. An example were the powerful independent cities at the Rhine like Cologne which had the privilege to force merchants passing through their territory to display their wares and offer them for wholesale prices to the local merchants. Maybe the slavers of Torcadino (or maybe only the new ones) are offered the privilege to cal dips on judicially enslaved women etc., i.e. a right of first refusal. 

With Marcus Lycus being a citizen of Ar and a businessman with specialized caste know-how, he'd fit very much into the category of people Torcadino might want to attract to fill the gaps in their citizenship. The warriors might tell him about the opportunities and provide in addition the letters of recommendation. Once arriving in Torcadino, he might be offered to take over a building and stalls of a slaver house hose members were sentenced to death or enlsavement.
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General Discussion / Re: Info dump about Torcadino
« Last post by Sinnabun on September 14, 2024, 02:23:38 pm »
Some quotes from Nercenaries of Gor, describing Torcadino or (more often) the occupation by Dietrich of Tarnburg.

The mercenaries left Torcadino before the uprising in Ar, so Torcadino probably switched allegations twice more (to Cos after the mercenaries were gone and then back to Ar after Cos was defeated).



Norman, John. Mercenaries of Gor (Gorean Saga Book 21)

“There are the aqueducts of Torcadino!” said Mincon. “I see them,” I said. The natural wells of Torcadino, originally sufficing for a small population, had, more than a century ago, proved inadequate to furnish sufficient water for an expanding city. Two aqueducts now brought fresh water to Torcadino from more than a hundred pasangs away, one from the Issus, a northwestwardly flowing tributary to the Vosk and the other from springs in the Hills of Eteocles, southwest of Corcyrus. The remote termini of both aqueducts were defended by guard stations. The vicinities of the aqueducts themselves are usually patrolled and, of course, engineers and workmen attend regularly to their inspection and repair. These aqueducts are marvelous constructions, actually, having a pitch of as little as a hort for every pasang.

.......

In something like a half of an Ahn we had come to Torcadino’s Sun Gate. Many cities have a “Sun Gate.” It is called that because it is commonly opened at dawn and closed at dusk. Once a Gorean city closes its gates it is usually difficult to leave the city. They are seldom opened and closed to suit the convenience of private persons. Sometimes rogues and brigands, and even slavers, hang about the gates, seeking to trap late comers against the walls. Many a lovely woman has fallen to the slaver’s noose in just such a fashion. To be sure, a given gate, the “night gate,” is usually maintained somewhere, through which bona-fide citizens, known in the city, or capable of identifying themselves, may be admitted.

.....

These inert, suspended, desiccated weights, now little more than skulls and the bones of men, with some bits of cloth, fluttering in the air’s stirrings, and threads and patches of dried flesh clinging about them, had been arranged in a line along the Avenue of Adminius, the main thoroughfare of Torcadino, near the Semnium, the hall of the high council, doubtless as some sort of mnemonic and admonitory display.

....

“That is the central cylinder of Torcadino,” he said, “the administrative headquarters of her first executive, whether it be Administrator or Ubar.” “Yes?” I said. “Look to its summit,” he said. I did so. “Do you know the flag of Torcadino?” he asked. “No,” I said. “It does not matter,” he said, “for of recent months what has flown there has not been the flag of Torcadino, but another flag, that of Cos.”

...

“It is silver,” I said. “It is far off. It is hard to make out. The sun is glinting on it.” “It is the standard of the silver tarn,” he said. “It is mounted on a silvered pole. Near the top of the pole there is a rectangular plate on which there is writing. Surmounting this plate, clutching it in its talons, is a tarn, done in silver, its wings outstretched.”
Standard of Dietrich of Tarnburg
...

"Through the aqueducts."
“Of course,” he said. “They were entered, one near the Issus, the other in the Hills of Eteocles, more than a hundred pasangs away. Soldiers, in double file, wading, moving sometimes even over the heads of Cosian troops, traversed them.”

...

There, some fifty yards away, kneeling, huddled together against the brick wall of a public building, the wall composed of the flat, narrow bricks common in southern Gorean architecture, was a group of some one hundred to one hundred and fifty females. They were naked. They were chained together by the neck. They were in the keeping of two soldiers, with whips.

...


As these women had been apparently marked out for seizure long ago, perhaps months ago, the numbers had doubtless been preassigned. Doubtless there were lists on which their names appeared, each name correlated for convenience with a given number. For example, a given high lady of Torcadino, of a faction favoring Cos, might have had opposite her name on some list the number, say, 908. She would then, after the fall of the city, have been hunted down, stripped, and put on the chain, the number 908 being inscribed on her left breast. For months then, she may have unsuspectingly, with haughty aplomb, in lofty, benign ignorance, gone about her life in her usual way, with her usual power and arrogance, unaware that she figured, however trivially, in the plans of others, others to whom she was no more than a naked female, who had been assigned the number 908. Her fate was already planned, and set. The days of her freedom, in a sense, were already gone. The marking stick was already in existence which would inscribe that number on her fair breast. In a sense she was then, unbeknownst to herself, 908; in a sense, then, a sense of which she was ignorant, she was already a slave. This sort of thing is not unusual, of course, the marking out of given women for bondage. Many women on Gor have been scouted, and selected for bondage, weeks or months, perhaps even years, before they are picked up. In a sense, then, they are already, at least in the view of their harvesters, slaves, simply waiting to be gathered in. Too, doubtless, something similar takes place on Earth, before Gorean slavers make their strikes. Many a girl, one supposes, has been noticed, and surreptitiously scouted and assessed, before she is found acceptable and then, at the slaver’s convenience, taken in hand, for transportation and delivery. Where are they noticed? One supposes it could have been anywhere, perhaps in a high school or college class room, perhaps in a corridor or a cafeteria, perhaps on a street, perhaps in a park or on a beach, perhaps on a bus or subway, or waiting at an airport, perhaps in an office, perhaps while getting into or out of a taxi, perhaps while shopping at the local supermarket. Who knows where or when the eyes of the slavers are upon them? If they knew that would they flee behind locked doors, hoping vainly to escape their fate; would they crouch fearfully in closets, waiting for the doors to be opened; or would they stand differently and move ever more beautifully, hoping in shyness, deference and femininity, to suggest their value, and their possible worthiness for a Gorean slave collar?

...

“These are new bodies, fresh bodies,” I said. “Of course,” said Mincon. We were at the foot of the low, broad steps of the Semnium, the hall of the high council, which building, it seemed, might now serve as the headquarters of the new masters of Torcadino. These steps extended before the building, for the entire length of its portico. “Who are they?” I asked. There were some two to three hundred new bodies hung now from tarred ropes along the Avenue of Adminius, in the vicinity of the Semnium. “Collaborators, traitors, men who were of the party of Cos, betrayers of the alliance with Ar, and such,” said Mincon. “As those earlier were similarly adherents of Ar?” I asked. “Perhaps,” said Mincon. “Some of those here,” I said, regarding the lines of bodies dangling in the tarred halters, “are perhaps the same as those who had been active in bringing about the downfall of those who hung here formerly.” “Of course,” said Mincon. “The winds have shifted in Torcadino,” I said. “Yes,” said Mincon. “It seems your captain is in the pay of Ar,” I said. “Of that you may judge yourself,” he said, “shortly.” “I?” I asked. “Yes,” he said. “I do not understand,” I said.
“Follow me,” he said. I then, and the others, followed him up the steps of the Semnium. I stopped once, at the entrance, to look back, at the bodies. I briefly recalled the girl at the chain, 437, and her mother, 261. Her mother, before her capture, I had gathered, had been important, having been the confirmation treasurer of one of Torcadino’s commercial councils, the Spice Council. She had also, in her position, I had gathered, and doubtless by her influence and acts, supported the cause of Cos. This inclination, incidentally, is not all that uncommon among individuals whose fortunes tend to be intimately involved in such matters as importation and exportation, the location and exploitation of foreign markets, and, in general, the overseas trade, the Thassa and island trade. This is understandable. The navies of Tyros and Cos, for most practical purposes, command the green waves of gleaming Thassa. They control many of the most familiar and practical oceanic trade corridors. Few coasts are free from their patrols. Few ports could scorn their blockades. 261, however, aside from all such considerations, was a citizeness of Torcadino, and Torcadino had been sworn to the cause of Ar. She had, it seemed, for whatever reason, presumably opportunism or greed, betrayed the pledge of her Home Stone. In the case of a man this can be a capital offense. She was not a man, however, but a female. It was thus, doubtless, that she had not been placed on a proscription list, but only on a seizure list. It was her sex which had saved her. Had she been a man she would have been hung. Within the entrance to the Semnium was a marble-floored, lofty hall. Passageways and stairways led variously from this broad vestibule. The walls were adorned with mosaics, scenes generally of civic life, prominent among them scenes of public gatherings, conferences and processions. One depicted the laying of the first stone in Torcadino’s walls, an act which presumably would have taken place more than seven hundred years ago, when, according to the legends, the first wall, only a dozen feet high, was built to encircle and protect a great, sprawling encampment at the joining of trade routes. Within the hall were several soldiers, and several officers, at tables, conducting various sorts of business. To one side, permanent fixtures, immovable and sturdy, their supports fixed in the floor, were several rows of long, low, marble benches. It was on these that clients and claimants, with their various causes, grievances, and petitions, would wait until their turn came to be called for their appointments or hearings. It was here, too, that witnesses, and such, might wait, before being summoned to give testimony on various matters before the courts.

...

“Cos will not dare let these refugees starve,” I said, “as they are citizens of a city which had declared for them, which had gone over to them. If they did not care for them, this would be a dark lesson, and one favoring Ar, to every wavering or uncommitted village, town and city within a dozen horizons.” “Quite,” he agreed. “What was done with the garrison of Torcadino?” I asked. “Most were surprised in their beds,” he said. “Their weapons were seized. Resistance was useless. We then expelled them, disarmed, from the city.” “So that they, too, like the civilians, would aggravate the problems of Cos.” “Yes,” he said.

...

I turned in the blankets, brought by soldiers, on the tiles of the vestibule of the Semnium. There were perhaps two hundred people, many of them civilians, being housed there this night. Near me, a free female, one of those to be counted among the spoils of Torcadino, was chained on one of the clients’ marble benches, one of several serving on such benches, women who, one after the other, in turn, were replaced with others.

...

Certain of the folks passed through the great gate of Torcadino were searched rather thoroughly. Some of the women, probably because the guards were interested in seeing them, were stripped stark naked, standing on the stones before the portal and, to their dismay, examined with Gorean efficiency. Certain coins and rings were found. After such a search a woman is sometimes good for nothing more than being a slave. But they were thrust through the gate, their clothes then clutched in their hands. Boabissia, interestingly, though quite comely, was spared this indignity. Some objects were confiscated from various folks, men and women, but little, really, was taken. I began to suspect that the treatment this group was receiving was, on the whole, little more than pro forma. I also suspected, after a few Ehn, that Boabissia’s immunity from Gorean Strip Search, in spite of the promise of pleasure to the guards of such a search, might be due to her party, that she was with us. The letters of the officer were now within my sheath. This tightened the draw, but the hiding place, considering the few options at my disposal, seemed a sensible one. Papers can be easily detected within tunic or cloak linings. To be sure, if one has time, the messages can be written on cloth within the linings, and then should elude search, unless the garment be torn open. There are many possible hiding places for messages or valuables, of course. A few that might be mentioned are false heels or divided soles in sandals, tiny secret compartments in rings, brooches, ornate hair pins, hollow combs, fibulae, studs, and clasps. The pommels of some swords are made, too, in such a way as to unscrew, revealing such a compartment. Similarly walking sticks and staffs often have one or more such compartments in them, reached by unscrewing various sections of the stick or staff. Needless to say, some of these, too, contain, daggers or thrusting swords. Such concealed compartments and weapons, and sometimes even builders’ glasses, sun chronometers, and compasses, and such, are found in such objects. It is cultural for white-clad pilgrims from certain cities to carry such staffs, often entwined with flowers, in pilgrimages to the Sardar. Such folks are not as harmless as they might seem, as various brigands have learned to their sorrow.

...
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General Discussion / Info dump about Torcadino
« Last post by Sinnabun on September 14, 2024, 12:35:58 pm »
To collect info about Torcadino. Starting with the most common search info.

Torcadino:
City located on "Flats of Sarpeto" at the intersection of various routes, the Genesian, the Northern Salt Line, the Northern Silk Road, the Pilgrim's Road, and the Eastern Way (or Treasure Road), Torcadino is a crossroads city SE of Brundisium, SW of Ar. A walled city-state not unlike Vonda. Recently served as a mercenary stronghold during the Ar/Cos conflict. Occupies a position of great strategic importance in the central north. Because of it's location. Once an ally of Ar, it served as Cosian stronghold and staging center, until reclaimed by Deitrich of Tarnburg. Torcadino is also notable for it's two aqueducts, built a century ago, which bring fresh waer from the Issus, a northwestwardly flowing tributary of the Vosk River. Similar to any of the walled city-states of ancient Earth Greece.

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Slave Information / Slave Positions
« Last post by Lady Ivenia on September 13, 2024, 10:36:57 am »
Rather than just copying and pasting all the information given on this site, it is easier to just give you the site link.  You will be tested on these positions.

Gorean Slave Positions
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House Information / Slaver Quotes From the Books
« Last post by Lady Ivenia on September 12, 2024, 12:51:47 pm »
When an individual captures a girl for his own uses, does not always mark her, though it is commonly done. On the other hand, the professional slaver, as a business practice, almost always brands his chattels, and it is seldom that an unbranded girl ascends the block.
Outlaw of Gor     Book 2     Pages 186 - 187

"She's a loud one," he said, shamefacedly. Then, with a shrug in my direction, as if to ask my pardon, he went to the girl and took a handful of her long hair. He wadded it into a small, tight ball and suddenly shoved it in her mouth. It immediately expanded, and before she could spit the hair out, he had looped more of her hair about her head and tied it, in such a way as to keep the expanded ball of hair in her mouth. The girl choked silently, trying to spit the ball of hair from her mouth, but of course she could not. It was an old slaver's trick.
Outlaw of Gor     Book 2     Page 188


He had known, of course, from the gown of blue and yellow silk that the man was a slaver.
Assassin of Gor     Book 5     Page 18

It was, of course, the largest and most opulent of the slave houses in Ar. The House of Cernus was more than thirty generations old. It had bred slaves as well as handled them for more than twenty-five generations. The breeding lines of the House of Cernus were recognized, with those of the House of Portus, and certain other of the large slave houses, throughout known Gor. To a slaver, certain girls can be recognized at a glance, as being of certain varieties developed by certain houses.
Assassin of Gor     Book 5     Page 110

The Gorean slaver knows his business.
Assassin of Gor     Book 5     Page 137

The Slavers, incidentally, are of the Merchant Caste, though, in virtue of their merchandise and practices, their robes are different. Yet, if one of them were to seek Caste Sanctuary, he would surely seek it from Slavers, and not from common Merchants. Many Slavers think of themselves as an independent caste. Gorean law, however, does not so regard them. The average Gorean thinks of them simply as Slavers, but, if questioned, would unhesitantly rank them with the Merchants.
Assassin of Gor     Book 5     Page 208

The ideal candidate for the Gorean slaver's snare is a highly intelligent, beautiful, imaginative woman, one who is strong willed, proud and free. It is such women that Goreans enjoy making slaves.
Hunters of Gor     Book 8     Page 154

"A certification of a girl's heat, in certain cities," I said, "is sometimes furnished, with the slaver's guarantee, among the documents of sale. Her degree of heat, in such a situation would also be listed of course, among her other properties, on her sales sheet, posted in the vicinity of the exhibition cages, available twenty Ahn before her sale. It would also be proclaimed, of course, in such a situation, along with her weight and collar size, and such things, from the block, during her sale."
"Is that sort of thing done in many cities?" she asked.
"In very few," I said, "and for a very good reason."
"Out of respect for the girls?" she asked.
"Of course not," I said. "It is rather done in few cities because of the possibility of fraud on the part of the buyer. He might use the girl for a month and then claim a refund in virtue of the guarantee. Slavers prefer for their sales to be final.
Beasts of Gor     Book 12     Pages 242 - 243

"Do you think that will make a difference to him," I asked, "when, with the dispassionate objectivity of the slaver, he stands you upon his assessment platform and assesses your quality as slave meat?"
Fighting Slave of Gor     Book 14     Page 361

It is interesting to see a slaver take a free female, complacent in her sexual inertness, even one arrogantly proud of her frigidity, and transform her into a needful, helpless, vulnerable, begging slave, zealous to serve, that she may be rewarded with even the least touch of a male.
Kur of Gor     Book 28     Page 167
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BoS / BoS
« Last post by Lady Ivenia on September 12, 2024, 12:39:33 pm »
While we do hate to do this, occasionally someone comes along who seems to go above and beyond for the sake of bullshit. Thus they find themselves listed below.  Anyone listed below is to be immediately ignored and booted from the room, whether by room moderator or site moderator.



- Russell Hobbes or whatever name he is using
- Maxim/Pierre/Max/missy/randy/Ebony Master/melissa/The Beast Returns/Masterson/marcus[0] or whatever names he is using
- Ragnarok
- Nika
- ravish and whatever names she's using now.
- Karl the Blind and whatever names He's using now.
- Tarik of Turia
- Kiz/Sigr and whatever names they might be using
- The former Saga {THC} and whatever names she's using now.
- Belle the Panther
- Nalani or whatever names she is using.
- Marko the thrall or whatever names he might be using.
- Chenber of Cos or whatever names he might be using.
- Aidan the Maerchant (sp)? or whatever names he might use regardless of how merchant is spelled.
- Evva the Seamstress, or whatever names she might use.
- mezana {Calculus} or whatever names she might use.
- Kasigi Omi and whatever names he might use.
- Christian (aka Klade) and whatever names he might use.
- ABA and whatever names she might use.
- Dillinger Enocenti, Kurzon ^The Hunter^, Jukar, or any of the other names they are using.
- Electra, and any other names she is using.
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